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Xenophage  
#41 Posted : Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:36:26 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I just also want to go on record saying I love this add-on, I use it daily for the past 3 years as well. I was absolutely livid when I found this forum explaining why my workspaces was now greyed out. I keep 5 to 6 SSMS open at a time, each with dozens of tabs. Saving my workspaces so I can restart my machine once a month without having to go through each tab one at a time was wonderful. Now I feel backstabbed, as all my workspaces are hidden from me unless I pay up!

$150 is outright greed! And in my life experiences, when you're greedy, you eventually loose out. Your customer base will die out, being this overpriced. What will you do then? Charge $500 per license to make up losses? Not going to solve your problem. I'm a developer at a marketing company, and I can tell you guys, just like everyone else here, this bait and switch tactic is not going to work. You're pissing off your loyal fan-base, and once they leave and find something equivalent, they will have no reason to return. If you're reading this and you work at Solutions Crew, and you want job security, you better print out this forum thread and push it in the face of your upper management. Companies larger than yours have gone under for less customer betraying actions than this. Your customers are politely telling you that you are being boycotted. Better do something about it!

Starbucks isn't a multi-billion dollar corporation because they overpriced their coffee, they sell volume of fairly priced coffee, and they advertise! Lower your price, advertise, and push volume! You're company is selling a product-less product. You're not paying for shipping or many other overhead costs that come with selling a physical product. Pushing large volume amounts of your product at reasonable prices should be your focus!

Offer a fairly priced "personal" license and you will have a hand full of buyers right here. Your customer base is not a "one size fits all". You need to offer some variety! I would happily pay as much as $50 out of my own pocket. But now I think I will simply find another tool.

It will be a shame to see such a useful tool die out due to greed.
Zidar  
#42 Posted : Friday, November 3, 2017 4:43:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
It is OK to ask for payment. However, U$150 is too high. See, I've been using two more code formatters together with SSMSBoost. Each paid 50-60 U$. I am also using a VB tool much more helpful than SSMSBoost, for the price of 60 $US. All packages have very free licenses, with most important features intact. I purchased licences to help the developers, community versions were good enough for my needs. In your case, you take out exactly the features people used the most - you collected history of use. Price of 150 is perhaps not that high, but psychologically it is high. I have spent about 150 on 3 products, two of them used to cover what SSMSBoost doesn't do particularly well - code formatting. Now I am asked to add 150 for product that will not replace the other two. Actually, the only thing competing products are lacking is copy column headers. And the cost is about 1/2 of yours.

Drop the price to reasonable level - 50-60 U$ and people will buy it. Or instead, charge yearly subscription fee of say, 36 U$ = 3 per month. That is how much people pay to various bloggers. Do not ask for the steep price plus yearly renewals.

Otherwise, good luck with 1% group buying your product. At the end you may find yourselves priced out off the market, with great tool to use yourself. Alas, programmers who can make tools like this seldom work in databases, so the tool would be useless to them too...
Joey Filichia  
#43 Posted : Tuesday, November 7, 2017 4:33:09 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Hi.
The only reason I really used this product was a simple and easy way to select the headers from the results grid. Being that I am an independent developer and consultant, I really don't feel like spending $150 to get a single functionality. Thanks for what you have built and past help, and do wish you well with the future of this product.

J.
Dintcho  
#44 Posted : Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:56:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Hi,

I'm part of this product since of the first version and I'm very very very disappointed in the fact that you've disabled more of the half options in Community License. I think that we're the people which help you to improve your product, which is now!

Please revision your decision to disabled many of the options in Community License?!?!

My advice is that there were a people which will buy your product anyway! But if you want to be top product and competitive of rest of all, you need us as Community QA Testers.

Please don't repel us from this wonderful product!


Cheers!
alansoft  
#45 Posted : Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:39:48 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie

So you put a lot of thought into this and, without notice, disable all the features.
With a fair warning I could have tried to make my company purchase the license for a bunch of developers - as of right now I am the only one using SSMS Boost out of hundreds/thousands.

Since now you took everything I used away, I might as well just uninstall it. Thank you so much.

Good luck.
Rob Y  
#46 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 7:46:19 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Just wanted to add my name to the list of people who would willingly pay $50 USD, but not $150. I've uninstalled, but will check back from time to time to see if you've decided to be reasonable.
Fawad  
#47 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 2:44:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Originally Posted by: Tigre Go to Quoted Post
I've been using this tool for 3 years and spreading word of how great it was to everyone I know. I was thinking about buying the Pro-License the other day because you guys deserve something for your work. Today I no longer have half of my functionality from the tool and so I decide it's time to buy the Pro-license. I log in here and I realize it has gone up to $150..... I guess it's time to move on and find another product. I love your product at $30-$40 dollars but there is no chance of my company or I ever paying $150 for this.


My thoughts exactly, being freelancer it is even harder. But yeah good product nevertheless.
HowMuchIsThisGoingtoCostMe  
#48 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 8:54:30 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Nothing new to say but I, like MANY others would be happy to spend $50 on some kind of personal license.
Scotty12356  
#49 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:38:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
In my experience, companies are not willing to pay for software, just cause developers like it and it makes their lives easier. Which means if devs what software like this they have to write it on their own time, or buy it themselfs...
I would be pay for SSMSBoost, say $50 a year... but to pay $150 USD ($196.52 AUD) I can not justify... like I could get the sack next week and be working on MySQL in my next job......

Please rethink the cost and make it affordable to your target audience and then you will get sales.

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starquest on 11/14/2017(UTC)
starquest  
#50 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:24:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I agree that it wasn't nice to disable these features with no explanation. I wasted a lot of time uninstalling/reinstalling/googling -- only to find out it was all disabled on purpose.

It's tough to take something away. Perhaps these features shouldn't have been free to begin with; now you've got a lot of frustrated devs.

As I said in another thread, $150 is too much for these few little features that I was used to using.
Kyle123  
#51 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 9:17:50 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Originally Posted by: SSMSBoost Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: skeepa Go to Quoted Post
Hi, what about a "Personal" License?
My company is not going to pay USD150 per user, but I think I personally could pay an intermediate price for full features, and you are going to sell more licenses.
I love SSMSBoost, but I really think 150 is too high, specially for non-US residents like me.


We are thinking about this different options, but we need some more time and statistics to crystallize the idea. Thank you for your proposal !


It's now been 2 months, has there been any movement on this? It would be good to know so that I can assess options.
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HowMuchIsThisGoingtoCostMe on 11/25/2017(UTC), dotmun on 12/8/2017(UTC), Sunup on 12/8/2017(UTC)
Łukasz Pawlak  
#52 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2017 9:27:29 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Can I use the community (free) version in commercial purposes?
I haven't found anywhere this information.
dotmun  
#53 Posted : Friday, December 8, 2017 6:17:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Am also in favor of a personal license. Would happily purchase for $50.
Sunup  
#54 Posted : Friday, December 8, 2017 6:21:23 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Originally Posted by: Kyle123 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SSMSBoost Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: skeepa Go to Quoted Post
Hi, what about a "Personal" License?
My company is not going to pay USD150 per user, but I think I personally could pay an intermediate price for full features, and you are going to sell more licenses.
I love SSMSBoost, but I really think 150 is too high, specially for non-US residents like me.


We are thinking about this different options, but we need some more time and statistics to crystallize the idea. Thank you for your proposal !


It's now been 2 months, has there been any movement on this? It would be good to know so that I can assess options.


SSMSBoost: I guess that many of us are waiting for a response from you on this. If you aren't actually planning to provide an alternative cost structure for "casual" users, please just say so. You don't seem to be active in your forums. Would it be better to connect with you on Twitter?
garyschick  
#55 Posted : Monday, December 11, 2017 4:06:02 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I have been enjoying the free ride as a part time consultant for several years.
The product is terrific and does provide real time savings. So when the free ride ended I asked my latest contract employer to purchase SSMSBoost for me and two other contractors. It too them 6 weeks to get back to me only to say no. I will probably shell out the cost from my own pocket for myself - although for a personal / professional cost it is on the high side. The other contractors said they would probably not do that. So, I hope you consider an intermediate price license -I think there are enough people in similar situations where there is no corporate sponsor and who will buy a personal/professional license for SSMSboost for something less than 150 USD.

For myself, I may buy it anyway because I find it that useful. I am just waiting to make sure I have a job (contract renewal) before I purchase. (One of the other contractor said he is looking at some of the other tools (such - apparently reasoning at that even at higher price level he can justify it as an expense where as 150 is just an out of pocket cost. Not sure I follow that reasoning :)

I thank you for making such I great and useful product and for the free use in the past!
BigGrin


Nicholas Reilingh  
#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:30:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I'm a community license user (at a nonprofit organization with no money to spend on software tools), and I can say that I have no need for the features that are now restricted to the pro license. The community license is fine, and a lot of the responses in this thread just seem like whining from people who are only thinking about themselves and don't understand how to run a business. (And would you knock it off with the emotional manipulation? Seriously!) The bigger problem is that the community license is currently broken since there hasn't been a release in 120 days. I sure hope that's not because the developer has fallen into depression from reading all the complainers in this topic...

It's pretty clear that there's a bunch of people who would buy the software at $50 but can't at $150. But would cutting the price by 66% triple the customer base? Probably not. Maybe the developer will figure out a semi-pro feature set that wouldn't cannibalize his pro revenue, but in any case when you compare to some of Redgate's SSMS Plugins that are between $300 and $500 per license, $150 looks like a steal. Personally, I like licensing models similar to Atlassian's and GitKraken that treat nonprofits, EDUs, and startups as charity cases, but that's a self-serving preference, and might not make any sense for software as highly specialized as this. (Regardless, I would appreciate if the SSMSBoost license discount for EDUs and nonprofits was published on the website somewhere.)

It's definitely a fair criticism to say the developer could be more active on the forums, though. I'm sure keeping a community manager on retainer for when you go on vacation isn't cheap either.
Rivanni  
#57 Posted : Monday, January 29, 2018 10:24:56 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Originally Posted by: Nicholas Reilingh Go to Quoted Post

It's pretty clear that there's a bunch of people who would buy the software at $50 but can't at $150. But would cutting the price by 66% triple the customer base? Probably not.

Tripling the customer base? That's not how things work mathematically. You probably mean new customers. But still.
If 10 people are not willing to pay $150 then the developer earns nothing. If only 1 out of 10 decides to buy it for $50 than that's a increase. If all 10 buy the program than that's $500. A lot more than $0.


Quote:
It's definitely a fair criticism to say the developer could be more active on the forums, though. I'm sure keeping a community manager on retainer for when you go on vacation isn't cheap either.

He's probably still dining in his super expensive restaurant.

Golhec  
#58 Posted : Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:33:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Just signed up to state how bitterly disappointed I am that you've removed that vast majority of core functionality from the community edition. I predominately used the tool for the copy selection as xml for excel as more often than not ssms will copy this incorrectly due to commas etc. If the price was set to a reasonable amount then I could potentially justify this to my business or as other have stated pay for it myself, but its so far away from a reasonable price point that there is little to no hope of it being approved nor me being able to justify it as a personal purchase. Would you possibly entertain "lite" versions, which has some of the functionality in such as the copying results grids at a cheaper more affordable price point?
Helisus  
#59 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:54:03 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
This update made "Community Licence" obselete. Sad ThumbDown

Point 1: Statistically tracking most used features and disabling them won't work if you want more money.
Point 2: I had the intention to buy the licence and visit the shop (expecting $5 or so) WTF is $150 for a plugin...
Point 3: You can't sell a product for $150 OR €150. They are not the same amount! #IsThisAJoke


#bringbackSSMSboost

Edited by user Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:15:14 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Helisus  
#60 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:04:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
You need time for troubled "Community Licence" users to be forced buying their PRO licence.
Would it be fair for those who pay that amount and you discount after their purchase?

Originally Posted by: SSMSBoost Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: skeepa Go to Quoted Post
Hi, what about a "Personal" License?
My company is not going to pay USD150 per user, but I think I personally could pay an intermediate price for full features, and you are going to sell more licenses.
I love SSMSBoost, but I really think 150 is too high, specially for non-US residents like me.


We are thinking about this different options, but we need some more time and statistics to crystallize the idea. Thank you for your proposal !


Dintcho  
#61 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:52:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Hi,

Could someone give me an explanation about below?

"Community edition will display only top 2 connection in the Quick Connections Switch drop-down on the toolbar"


Cheers!
Andrei  
#62 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2018 4:05:33 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration
Originally Posted by: Dintcho Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Could someone give me an explanation about below?

"Community edition will display only top 2 connection in the Quick Connections Switch drop-down on the toolbar"


Cheers!


Hi, You can have as many preferred connections as you want in the configuration dialog, but you will be able to use only top 2 in Quick Connections switch drop-down.
Dintcho  
#63 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2018 4:08:32 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Originally Posted by: Andrei Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Dintcho Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Could someone give me an explanation about below?

"Community edition will display only top 2 connection in the Quick Connections Switch drop-down on the toolbar"


Cheers!


Hi, You can have as many preferred connections as you want in the configuration dialog, but you will be able to use only top 2 in Quick Connections switch drop-down.



But there are many restrictions again... why?? Many of the functionalities are disabled again.......Cursing
Morden_Kain  
#64 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2018 8:46:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I am surprised that so many people are complaining about the cost of this add-in, researching they would find that the cost is less than similar tools. Case in point, Red Gate's SQL Prompt costs $365 for a single license. SSMSBoost is less than 1/2 the cost. So, if you are complaining about the $150, and spent $365 for a different product, you have no leg to stand on.

Personally, I ponied up the cost myself after the agency I work for spent over $200 for each of the 20+ licenses of SQL Prompt (Government, Education and Group discounts dropped the original cost). And they still spent more. I am not saying that the $150US is for everyone.

I would also be willing to pay $50 for 3/4 of the functions of this tool, as I do not use more than 1/2 of them. Unfortunately, the 1/2 I do use, they disabled which led me to spend the $150 for the Pro License. I will gladly spend the cost of a good meal on the license renewal, which is what I believe the company was pointing toward in their meal comment.

You are all developers, do some friggin' research on other tools before you go all Mad, OhMyGod, Unsure, or ThumbDown on the product change.

</hops off soap box>
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needfulthing  
#65 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2019 4:42:33 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
I was a little confused finding out that the Community version was limited in it's features over one year ago. I was able to use all features until the end of 2018 and now got a note in SSMS that they have been deactivated. The Community version was great, because of the nature of this product. It's a tool set and many people (like me) just use it because of two or three features. Forcing them to pay 150$ for this will just not work out for them. Convincing your company to spend 150$ for a plug-in will also just not work out for a lot of people. 49$ start and 29$ renewal would have been a much better price model in my opinion - despite my most favorite option of allowing donations.
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Andrei  
#66 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2019 6:32:08 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration
Originally Posted by: needfulthing Go to Quoted Post
I was a little confused finding out that the Community version was limited in it's features over one year ago. I was able to use all features until the end of 2018 and now got a note in SSMS that they have been deactivated. The Community version was great, because of the nature of this product. It's a tool set and many people (like me) just use it because of two or three features. Forcing them to pay 150$ for this will just not work out for them. Convincing your company to spend 150$ for a plug-in will also just not work out for a lot of people. 49$ start and 29$ renewal would have been a much better price model in my opinion - despite my most favorite option of allowing donations.


Thank you for your input. Will be considered!
SSS  
#67 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2019 9:56:25 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Just an interesting comparison....

Windows 10 Pro - $199

SSMSboost Professional - $150 (+ $30/year for support.)

Guess which is a fully fledged OS and which is merely a plugin for a free tool.
Cannot be justified.

No worries, Azure Data Studio has just been released.
It currently doesn't have all of the SSMSBoost features, however....
  • Its open source
  • and extension based (which will translate to installing only the features you need)


I predict that the users of the community license for SSMSBoost will drive the development of the lost features into Azure Data Studio extensions.

So for me, its thanks to SSMSBoost for being a tool - that I have found useful in the past, but I don't see SSMSBoost in my future.
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